‘Place’ bets that travel
inside, out and across

Feb 24, 2004 12:03 AM

Place bets are second only to pass line in popularity, not only for the experienced player but for the beginner also. Whether it is by another player or the dealer, the beginner is encouraged to "get another number" by making place bets. Many beginners find that it is easier to understand place bets and the procedure for betting them, than it is for the pass line.

Not surprisingly, when the beginner decides he wants to place more than one number, he sets his bets down one at a time, telling the dealer what numbers he wants to place. There is an easier way to tell the dealer what you want to bet, when making a combination of three or more place bets of equal units, but a live craps game is usually not the best place to learn the advanced semantics of the game.

"Across" means either all six numbers or all five numbers, excluding the point. In the following examples, the red numbers are being bet and the green numbers are not.


ACROSS: including the point.


ACROSS: not including the point.


The "inside" numbers are the five, six, eight and nine.


INSIDE: including the point.


INSIDE: not including the point.


The "outside" numbers are the four, five, nine and ten. Yes, the five and nine can be referred to as inside or outside numbers.


OUTSIDE: including the point.


OUTSIDE: not including the point.


So, if a player says; "fifteen outside" when the point is five, it can be assumed he wants $5 each on the four, nine and ten. "Seventeen inside" would mean $6 each on the six and eight and $5 on either the five or nine (whichever was not the point). "Twenty-seven across" is $6 each six and eight and $5 each on the remainder of the outside numbers that are not the point. "Twenty-six across" would be the same thing, except when the point is six or eight.

To be an "official" across bet, the player must be betting either all six numbers or all five numbers, except for the point. He must be betting an equal amount on all outside numbers he is betting (not including commission for possible buy bets on the four or ten). He must be betting an equal number of units on the inside numbers he is betting. Since players must place the six and eight in six dollar units, to get a correct payoff, bets on the six and eight will not be identical to the other numbers.

There will however, be the same number of "units" on the inside numbers. If the payoff for a place bet on the six or eight is the same as the payoff for a place bet on the five or nine, then an equal number of units have been bet. For example, a $6 place bet on the six or eight pays $7 and a $5 place bet on the five or nine also pays $7, so an equal number of units have been bet.

An official "inside" bet is on either all four inside numbers or on the three remaining inside numbers, if the point for the pass line is an inside number. Again, there must be an equal number of units bet on each number bet.

An official "outside" bet is an identical bet on either all four outside numbers or on the remaining three outside numbers when the point is an outside number.

I am not saying that a player must always bet the same amount or number of units when making multiple place bets, it is just that if he doesn’t, there isn’t a predetermined expression he can use that the dealer has been trained to recognize. I once had a player walk up to my game when the point was six and say; "Give me three-fifty inside!" Since the shooter had the dice I said; "No bet this roll Sir!" The player was aggravated that I did not know he wanted $100 each on the five and nine and $150 on the eight. Since he did not want an equal number of units on each number bet, he shouldn’t have expected me to know what he meant.

Truly sophisticated players sometimes use the term "high" when making place bets. Since $22 inside includes all inside numbers, even if one of them is the point, if the point is six a player might say; "Twenty-two inside, high eight." This means he doesn’t want to place the point but use the $6 that would be on the point of six, to press his eight. So he would be placing the eight for $12 and placing the five and nine for $5 each.

(Dale S. Yeazel is the author of "Precision Crap Dealing" and "Dealing Mini-Baccarat." Full color E-books on CD-Rom available for only $20 each (plus tax) at Gamblers Book Shop and Gamblers General Store in Las Vegas. www.geocities.com/lump450).